The $100,000 Haircut?
The Albertans are coming! The Albertans are coming!
I keep an eye on what is going on in the US, particularly in California, where I first started noticing bubble blogs sprouting on the internet a few years ago. After a few years of watching debates rage back and forth over whether an inevitable day of reckoning would arrive for over-priced US real estate, it looks like the debate is finally over.
Nobody knows for sure where it will all end, but a lot of the hopes and dreams that seemed substantial back in 2004-2005 in California and other parts of the US have turned to so much desert dust, blown away by the realignment of economic forces, away from a bubble-tastic frothiness that was so aptly blamed on "irrational exuberance".
Now we see, in California and other US states, that properties formerly valued on paper hundreds of thousands of dollars higher, are finding their real worth is not what it was puffed up to be.
Here are a couple recent examples, one from the poster boy for mortgage fraud and escaped consequences, Casey Serin. Or as he was recently dubbed, perhaps unfairly, the most hated blogger on the internet.
It turns out that Casey bought this house for around $330,000, as he went on a Western US real estate buying spree, right at the top of the US bubble in 2005-2006. By the time a foreclosure auction rolled around in February 2007, nobody wanted it. In the end, the banks lost more than $130,000 when the property finally sold.
Not to mention, in the neighbourhood where this house just sold, property values have now declined over 30%, if one extrapolates from the earlier purchase to the recent sale, and considers it an accurate bellwether of the current market, not an anomaly.
The market in some areas of California is so overbuilt, it is possible some homes will never be occupied. Check out the fate of this house in a Sacramento suburb. It was recently offered at a steep discount from the price houses in the development originally sold for - and it still didn't sell.
Previous sale price in July 2005? $526,000.
Price it was offered at a foreclosure auction when it didn't sell in spring 2007? $295,000.
How do the original buyers feel about their "investments" when something like this happens? They can't be satisfied with the actions of builders, who attempt to sell their inventory any way they can, even for hundreds of thousands of dollars less than the prices paid by earlier purchasers. Early buyers can't be pleased that their insolvent neighbours can't afford the house next door, that pumped up everyone's home values, and now takes them back down again.
This stuff is happening in California right now! Why exactly is Victoria different from California, aside from timing? So different that prices can't ever come down when overbuilding saturates the local market? So different that a flood of rich foreigners (Hong Kong Chinese, Americans, Albertans) can't stop coming here, ever, or ever stop driving prices higher?
Which begs the question, who can replace a rich Albertan, when he eventually stops moving to Victoria?
Meanwhile, in Florida, condo owners can't wait to escape from their contracts in an overbuilt real estate ground zero, as this article from the NY Times explains.
*update to this story - well, Casey Serin has shut down his blog, as you can read about here. So the links aren't working to support the story about Casey's foreclosed house, but it's all true! ...
Further update - like the Cat, Casey came back, and the links above are working again...
[editor's note - none of the Casey links are working anymore - sorry - August 31, 2007]
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I was just talking to my girlfriend last nite about this and I am puzzled on who are and is going to buy all these condos. I don't see a major influx of Chinese moving here like in Vancouver,the Americans got to be hurting on the dollar exchange and they have to be darn close running out of Albertans with bucks who want to pay strata fees on something they may only see once a year.
I was reading the May-June Business Examiner, which I get for some reason or other, and this issue has the cover story "Condos, Condos Everywhere".
Inside, there are some choice quotes from Greg Baynton, head of the Vancouver Island Construction Association. Some of my favourites include: "This is clearly not a boom. We've gone through boom and bust cycles. This is sustained." He goes on to say that industry projections for the whole province are to carry on with the same level of building, if not more, until 2030.
I couldn't believe they were confidently predicting a sustained boom until 2030, but then it occurred to me it was just TCDL -speak.
He goes on to say that BC, and Vancouver Island in particular, is becoming a bedroom community for Alberta. Say what? Are they coming here to buy second homes, to buy Motel Sixes, or to just buy everything?
Look out, the Albertans are coming, you ain't seen nuthin' like it, until, like, at least 2030.
<no offense to actual Albertans is intended, this is just an expression of annoyance with the "rich foreigners will keep on buying until 2030" theory of real estate development>
They all want to think that cause they know the end is near or maybe they have brainwashed themselves to completely ignore the US correction. It appears to me the overbuilding they say won't happen this time is happening before our eyes,has to be a declining pool of buyers. No slag to the Albertans either, half my relatives are there and none of them want to move here and yes they are rich farmers.
So they really think Albertans are going to sustain the property market here in years to come. I think it was a trend - buy Victoria real estate. North Americans love trends. There will be a new trend. What if things go wrong in Alberta???? It has happened before. I met a couple who decided to spend their winter here - November to April. They were from Calgary. They hated the rain and complained the whole time and are not coming back. They also had a problem with the homeless downtown. Victoria is not an island paradise. Lets be honest.
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